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10-04-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
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Trust Level:  | | | yahoo on cingular... again....
Here's an interesting note about IM'ing... Specifically YIM.....
I was on the phone with the BB tech support this evening, about some other issue that that screwed up... But I asked them about YIM and the BB. They stated that it doesn't work, and I said I know that, but I want to know why..... Didn't have an answer, so I brought up the fact that there normal phones having the ability but not the BB. I then ask her, that if it's a paid for service on the normal phones, can I just pay that service charge like a normal phone.... Puts me on hold again, to get the answer to that. When she comes back, she says it doesn't work like that... I say ok. So, if the software (YIM) comes from the blackberry site, how does it not work? She puts me on hold yet again... Comes back and says that, it's possible to get it to work on the BB through cingular but wont tell me how.
So, there is a way to get it to work. Anyone want to take a stab at getting that to work?
Dr. Woo
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10-05-2006 -
| Device Expert  Join Date: Mar 2006 | | Device: 8330 PIN: 319cbc63
Posts: 15,662
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Wish I could help but Im on Sprint-Nextel, not Cingular.
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 1  Join Date: Aug 2005 | | Device: 8700c PIN: 203BC0CE
Posts: 15
Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
Yes, there is a way to get it to work. Can I post links to other BB sites here?
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Aug 2006 | | Device: 8300 PIN: 2516CB5A
Posts: 335
Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
It certainly doesn't work with O2. I've given up after trying and getting a dooh! response from the O2 tekkies (all of whom are reeeeely helpful but seem to know very little about BBs)
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 1  Join Date: Aug 2005 | | Device: 8700c PIN: 203BC0CE
Posts: 15
Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
I got it to work by doing the following:
Okay, so, I'm going to start off by saying that, yes, I'm new here, but no stranger to BlackBerry handsets m'self. However, I have learned a great deal from these forums, and in turn would like to contribute something back, here.
Research in Motion's Yahoo! Messenger client (located at http://www.blackberry.com/go/yahoo) requires a specific Y!M service book to be able to function on any given handset. Now, as I'm sure some of you are well-aware, Cingular Wireless sadly does and will not currently provision the Y!M service book (BBFS2) when downloading/installing Y!M. However, other service providers will, and I have taken the liberty of seperating into a Backup/Restore file the service book for Y!M into a nice, easy Backup/Restore File, which can be loaded up right into the device via the Desktop Manager Backup/Restore (I'm sorry, no desktop solutions for Mac users yet, but stay tuned!). Just make sure that you remember that this is going to delete all your current service books, so you 'll need to manually register via the Host Routing Table editor in Settings > Options/Advanced Options to get your books back. Also, you'll need to log into your BIS account and resend the service books from there, as well as regenerate any encryption keys if you're using the Desktop Redirector or are on a BES (don't forget to have your friendly neighborhood BES admin create an IT policy enabling Y!M traffic, too).
Now, the other way this can be done involves inserting another GSM carrier SIM card (such as T-Mobile, for example) and downloading/installing Y!M from http://www.blackberry.com/go/yahoo from there. At that point, you should check your service books and make sure that you've got "BBFS2 [YHO]" listed, then switch back the SIM card to your Cingular SIM (your handset must be unlocked to proceed, though).
Basically, there are just a few steps to go through here:
#1: Download the .ipd backup file here: http://www.boomspeed.com/setzer/yaho...rvice_book.ipd
#2: Restore the file to your handset using Desktop Manager (see https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB4717.html for instructions).
#3: Manually register your handset with the RIM network via the HRT editor (see https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB49643.html for instructions).
#4: Log into your BIS account and re-send BIS service books:
BIS 1.8 (from PC) - https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB2355.html
BIS 2.0 (from PC) - https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB64052.html
BIS 2.0 (from handset) - https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB64276.html
#5: If applicable, regenerate encryption keys for Desktop Manager or BES. If you're on a BES, again, make sure your BES admin can create a policy allowing Y!M traffic.
#6: One more thing: if you find that the service does not work right from the install, try doing a hard reset (pulling/reinserting battery).
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I know it's not very organized, but I hope you all find this useful. Good luck, and happy messaging. =)
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack Moderator  Join Date: May 2006 | | Device: CURVE PIN: PM - Ask
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again.... |
Originally Posted by codymac | Thanks but this link doesn't work.
Rcbjr.
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
The link doesn't work becuase it was shorted.... just remove the Yah..... part it's at the bottom of the listing there.
Dr. Woo
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
SCORE!
Thanks a ton man........ now to get this info all the cingular customers... heh
Dr. Woo
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 1  Join Date: Aug 2005 | | Device: 8700c PIN: 203BC0CE
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
Yeah, you're welcome. You don't know how big this was to me. No more Verichat feeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!
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10-05-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
Wasn't that hard to do at all... looks confusing... took all but 5 minutes to complete.
One of these days, I need to try that pin messenger I have installed... heh
Dr. Woo
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10-11-2006 -
| Stack level 2  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700c PIN: 23DEB708
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~So why is cingular being so tight with YIM?
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10-11-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
Posts: 448
Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
Good question....
I was thinking it may have something todo with the fact that they offer it on some of the phones possibly some contract issue with yahoo?
Dr. Woo
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10-12-2006 -
| Stack level 1  Join Date: Oct 2006 | | Device: 8700c PIN: 23DE238B
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Trust Level:  | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
Thank you so much I was just browsing trying to find a way to download a messanger to my device and was frustrated and ready to give up when i couldn't even get veri chat to load when i ran across this forum and got all the answers i needed i had it loaded and working in a matter of minutes i was so happy i joined pinstack immediately! Thank you so much.
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10-12-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Sep 2006 | | Device: 8700C PIN: 23D11279
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~
Yeah, the guide was great. I know I was happy to get it to work. So now I have aim and yim running
Dr. Woo
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10-13-2006 -
| Stack level 3  Join Date: Nov 2005 | | Device: 8100C PIN: 2415259c
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Trust Level:  | | | Re: yahoo on cingular... again....
thanx to dr. woo i was able to get mine running.. | | |